Episode Transcript
Speaker 1 00:00:02 Welcome to the balanced perspective podcast, where we're going to be challenging perspectives on what it actually takes to be successful in both business and in life. I'm your host, Terry Ann Richards. And with 16 years as a serial entrepreneur, I've experienced some of life's most epic successes and failures. Join me as we journey on a mission to blow the lid off of some of the best kept secrets to living a life of true success from the inside out.
Speaker 2 00:00:39 Welcome back to the balanced perspective. I am here with my new friend Kellen Flueckiger. I said that, right? Correct.
Speaker 3 00:00:49 Whoa, mind blowing. First time
Speaker 2 00:00:52 I actually typed it out phonetically. That's how it worked for me coming through decades of depression, addictions life-threatening illness, and a near death experience. Kaelin has become the ultimate catalyst to help motivate people, melt barriers, move mountains, and mobilize superpowers to achieve their true desires as a coach and a keynote speaker Kaelin's masterful approach helps people get past old stories, change beliefs, and create a life context to reach even goals. That seem impossible. Welcome to the show Kaelin.
Speaker 3 00:01:28 Thank you for having me in. The first thing I want to do is on your episode, honor you for the effort, love, courage, and truth that you share. You have made a choice to add good to the world, and I love that and I want to honor the truth and the being that you are.
Speaker 2 00:01:44 Thank you for that. Thank you. So Kaelin, I like to dig right into the why people are who they are today. We've all got a journey that we've been through it's uniquely ours. And so take me back to the beginning of the person that you are today, that, that beginning catalyst, the spark.
Speaker 3 00:02:04 So you, you read a lot of stuff in my bio and it sounds like a lot of marketing hype coming through this, that, and the other and do all these cool things. And as you read it, I reviewed and have written 16 books. Since I started being a coach in 2007 and I have six more underway and that's part of the journey, but here's the thing. Every single thing you read there is true. There has been messes blood on the floor and everything. And it started when I was young, I was raised in a two parent home that looked like it should be successful. My mom was young, got married. Didn't really know how to be a mom. And she was very connected to a particular religious kind of upbringing. And so her discipline style today would be felony, child abuse. She beat the crap out of me all the time.
Speaker 3 00:02:48 And I remember wishing I would die during some of the beatings. Cause I figured that would be the only way she'd get in trouble. Even in high school, get this high school. I remember getting dressed last in the locker room, cause I didn't want people to see I was black and blue. So in that, what happened? And I've long since forgiven and it's not an issue, but what it did is it left me believing to the core of my soul that I was not okay. And despite the fact that I have extraordinary IQ and I've had a lot of success and brains and all this, that, and the other, I was terrified. I needed to hate myself because I was wrong. I was bad and everything that was wrong around me was my fault. I did not learn what it meant to be loved or to love everything was conditional.
Speaker 3 00:03:32 And I lived in a state of depression from my teens, but part of the stuff from home as you can't talk to anyone, counselors and other people, they're evil people. And so you can't talk, talk, it's all you. And so I lived with all of that inside of myself and never spoke to a soul until I was 52. So for 35 years, I left home at 17. So 35 years I played parts. I became an extraordinary method actor. And I remember saying to myself, I can be anybody you like, I can do exactly what I need to do and do it well. And that tenacity earned me spots on the world stage. I made ridiculous amounts of money. I've testified before Congress had a contract with the queen of England. I was in the C-suite in the United States and Canada in companies. I made more money than I knew what to do with.
Speaker 3 00:04:23 And I hated myself behind the scenes. I was miserable. I was in and out of rehab. I was married and divorced three times. I have 10 children, some of which don't talk to me because of the addictions and problems. And so I still have some opportunity there. And I lived attempted suicide twice. All of that was this horrific rollercoaster of the need for self-loathing. At one point I was making enough money that my $3,000 a week cocaine addiction was lunch money. I had bodyguards at some point, you know, all of that stuff, the stuff where you say you can make a movie right on the one side, it's like, whoa. And on the other side, it's like, ah, and so the battleground was ugly. And I remember sitting in my study when the lights would go out and thinking, I don't feel anything. I don't know who I am.
Speaker 3 00:05:11 Boy, during the day, the three-piece Armani downtown will do battle and I can win every time behind the scenes. I didn't know who I was and I couldn't get to the state of my favorite saying used to be, I can't wait to be unconscious, whether it was drugs or sleep or some stupor or illumination didn't matter. And in a 30 minute episode, I can't tell the stories, but I wrote them finally in a book, tight rope of depression, my journey from darkness, despair, and death to light love and life. And the actual event that turned things around was in August of 2007. When I was 52, I came home on a Friday night going to go party for the weekend. I had four teenagers living with me, four of my 10 kids. I was single again for the third time, some are up in married and three or somewhere else.
Speaker 3 00:06:01 I came home on that Friday night, ready to party. And for some reason I needed to turn on the television. Now that doesn't sound like anything, except I didn't actually know how I wasn't a TV watcher. And I'd had the electronics guys come in and put the biggest coolest crap. Cause that's what you buy. Right? Flat screen. And then I went to turn it on. I'm like, ah, yeah, I don't do this. So I had to call one of my kids in and 16 year old daughter came in, punched a few buttons and threw the remote at me, stomped out idiot. So you know, not a surprise. So it landed on a program that I'd never heard of, but I'd never heard of any of them titled intervention, which is a reality TV show about families who stage interventions for busted loved ones that were just getting started.
Speaker 3 00:06:46 The protagonist was a high ranking executive with a cocaine problem. So I watched about 10 minutes of the show and I said, I'm not watching this crap, turned it off, went in, did the dishes did a couple things, got ready to go out? And I would have been gone for three maybe until Monday or Tuesday partying who knows where. And I just felt compelled to turn it back on. So I did this to my new house. And so I, uh, sat down and that program started over in the middle of the hour. No, I don't have a DVR. No it wasn't on the schedule and no, it can't do that. Yeah, I got that. But it did anyway. So I thought, uh, okay, I guess I'm supposed to watch this. So I watched it, it went badly. The guy got mad, refused all the help, stomped out, yelled at his relatives, but it scared me bad enough that I did not go out.
Speaker 3 00:07:33 I went to bed when I went to bed, I went to hell. And what I mean by that is for some ridiculously long period of time, I was in the audience in a theater kind of, or the parade of things on the stage where events from my life. And it was centered around suffering from both the suffering that had been inflicted on me as a kid, all the way through all the lies and horrific stuff I had perpetrated to others up to the present. It was the most painful thing that like, we simply do not have language to describe the agony that I witnessed after an interminable period of time, the voice said softly. It is enough. I woke up and the sun was streaming in the window, which confused me because the windows faced west, it was five o'clock Saturday afternoon. So I had been somewhere for nearly 18 hours.
Speaker 3 00:08:33 I got up and realized that I had been invited to change. I had no idea what I was going to do or how to do this, but I knew I had to get away from everything that I knew. So I threw away a thousand dollars worth of stuff that I had laying around, which I always had and started thinking about what to do next. I went back to work. Didn't resign immediately from everything, but I knew I had to get out of everything. And the other half of the divine intervention happened two weeks later show because of the positions that I held and I made important decisions that affected a lot of companies. I used to get free stuff. So think of a CEO who gets free, this and that, and the other tickets to this expensive wines and, you know, box seats. And you get to go place it all for free.
Speaker 3 00:09:19 Cause why? Because people want to be nice to Callan. And so I got two tickets to a yo-yo mock concert at the premier venue here in the city I was in. And if you know, classical music, you know who that is. And if you don't, you know, but he's like, oh, in the classical world. And so I thought, well, it'd be a real shame to waste this other ticket. So I said to the groups that I managed, who likes classical music and some lady in one of the groups said, well, I do. And I looked at it and I said, if I ever given you anything before, and she said, no, I said, okay, fine here. See you there. So I gave her the ticket and we met at the venue and I knew who she was, but fit a good job. She had a, she was a project manager and one of my groups had a good career and everything and was a good employee.
Speaker 3 00:10:02 And then we met at the venue and watch the show and it was electrifying. And now I'm two weeks stone cold sober. Because after that night, I went from 3000 bucks a week to zero in one day, that was it. And so I'm stone, cold, sober, and halfway through the concert. I had this feeling and I recognized it from two weeks before. And a voice said to me, you need to marry this woman. And I said, you're insane. I screwed that up three times officially and some other messages in between I, us. Yeah. That's not happening. And so then later that night we were backstage because of course they were backstage passes and I, uh, we were doing, you know, everybody and stuff. And then the feeling and the voice came back comma, and you need to tell her tonight and you're insane. You're going to be arrested.
Speaker 3 00:10:54 I mean, come on. She works for me, you know, harassment and all this crap you're out of your mind. And so I argued, but you don't win those arguments. So I did. And it went about like, you would have expected, are you out of your mind? What are you talking about? But she didn't call the cops fortunately. And, uh, and within two weeks she had her own set of experiences. Uh, and, um, she quit and I quit and we walked off into the sunset together. And two months ago we celebrated our 40th anniversary. And the reason that was important is because the first event got me sober, but did nothing about how I got where I was, which was the depression stuff. And self-loathing, and not knowing, not even knowing how to be a person. She was the angel, literally that was sent to say, okay, we can deal with this depression.
Speaker 3 00:11:47 So she researched some shrinks and she took me places and she did everything. So that for the next three or four years, I figured out how to be a person and how to tell the truth and how to be a friend and have a friend and how to, what love even meant. Even I've been married three times, you know, I learned to be a person and she was invincible in seeing through this. And I've asked her a bunch of times, like, what on earth made you walk away from a career and under the sunset with the drug addict, because everybody knew, but they didn't know, but they knew rumors and stuff. She said, I just knew the core of my soul was the right thing to do. So with between those two things and then accepting the invitation to walk off into the sunset, start all over again. That was what changed the thing. Oh, and her name is joy. Like you can't make this stuff up. Right? So that, that's what started it. And that was 14 going on 15 years ago.
Speaker 2 00:12:45 Wow.
Speaker 3 00:12:46 And I've written 16 books. And I only do one thing after I learned to be alive and be a person. And that is help people figure out who they really are and to live into that truth.
Speaker 2 00:12:59 That is a powerful, powerful story. And there's so much of it I want to impact. And so I almost feel like I'm going, I'm going to get you on the show again, Kaelin, we're going to have another talk, but here's where I want to go with this. There are people who, you know, every story has a relatable moment, right? Going through divorce, being depressed, um, having childhood drama, going through abuse, pain, addictions, all of this stuff. So every, you just have you experienced it all, but every person who's listening, whether they have experienced it themselves or have somebody close to them has experienced it. Like it would almost be impossible for someone to have not been there. Here's the thing that I want to talk about what I notice being in a business for over 16 years and now working in the capacity as a coach, I recognize a lot of people are sort of walking, walking through life on knowingly, walking through life with just not a clear picture of who they are and what they stand for. And, you know, listening to your story. It sounds a lot like divine intervention, big guy, big girl, big guy, big girl upstairs. I don't know if y'all believe in him or her, but, but I certainly do.
Speaker 3 00:14:24 Yeah. It doesn't even matter. It's like, God saw, look, you can't do this. You've done this three times officially, let me help you that one.
Speaker 2 00:14:33 Um, but almost, you know, and I always, you know, I'm a big why person always, always will be perpetually curious to a fault because you know, we all have met people who have lived your life and didn't survive it. And so you were chosen to go forth and help other individuals find their, their core, their north star, their why, their, their reason for being. And so again, I always look in the perspective of the people who are tuning in right now, there is a large percentage of the population right now that is struggling. They are struggling and there are different reasons. And I don't need to think the reasons matter. What I want to ask you is, you know, say they don't have someone up top that has that conversation with them and they don't have a joy in their corner. What is it that they can be doing right now to start walking into the path where the light is so that they can start feeling the joy.
Speaker 3 00:15:35 So thank you for asking that. And I'm gonna, um, say something, maybe you don't hit me. That there's nothing interesting about me. There's nothing special about me and I'm not any more important than any single person listening to this podcast. The strength of my invitations was directly proportional to the thickness of my skull. Okay. I got hit with a two by four because I had ignored so many previous invitations and every one of your listeners, if you stop right now and be quiet with yourself and tell the truth, you have felt the invitations, you have felt the yearning to do something, to take a chance, to change something, even a little thing at a time. And so the fact that I needed a two-by-four listens, I had no idea what I was going to do. I walked away from millions of dollars of contracts without a clue in the world.
Speaker 3 00:16:34 And from the industry I was in turned down to high level positions that got offered me immediately. I was that well known in my industry and said, I just can't do that. I gotta do something else. I had no idea what something was and I didn't have anyone to earn for us. Joy quit too. So we, we, we sat down and said, so what are we going to do? As we get to know each other, as we figure out who we are and what we're doing together. I mean, she was responding to that call too, and we didn't even know each other.
Speaker 2 00:17:11 Wow. So, so just going back to that, that thought, and I appreciate what you're saying, because, you know, I would say, yes, you are special. But I think what you were trying to say there is that you're not so special that this is impossible for other people. And so for those people, right, who have heard the call, whether it's just a little silent whisper that they keep ignoring it, it's scary. Right? Like I've been down this road, you know, and I I've had the moments where like, is that voice talking or is somebody else having a conversation in my head telling me to do the complete opposite of what I intended to. And I've learned to listen, uh, I've never been hit over the head by a two by four, but I've been tripped a few times. So, you know, that's, that's hard and scary and painful enough. I guess the question is being there where you've been knowing you've ignored it. I know I've ignored it in the end. It's almost like the, the, the, the rubber band that just keeps pulling further and further and further from you. And this is going to snap you right in the ass at some point. So for the people who are listening, that they are getting the little, the little whispers, like it's scary. What is the something that you could say to them that gives them a little bit of like courage?
Speaker 3 00:18:28 So two things take the things to steps necessary to cultivate your intuition. The most important, powerful, immediate tool is to learn to meditate. And I don't mean some particular style and some particular mantra and some particular Lotus position or standing on your head and the corner read. You know, I wrote, I wrote a five volume series on meditation. Volume one is meditation. The amazing journey within it introduces five different approaches to meditation. But point is, there are three steps, slow down enough to be where you are. Learn to just let all the thoughts go and just be with yourself. That's part one, part two is be still enough to notice what is there, because even though there was drama associated with my invitations, there were still invitations. It would have been, I, you know, I hallucinated regularly because of overdoses and stuff. For years before that, I easily could have dismissed that I could have anything, but there was a difference. It felt different. And I knew. And so cultivate that. Knowing if you say, what is this crazy conversation I'm having with myself, or is this really the voice slow down until, you know,
Speaker 3 00:19:42 Step one is slow and slow down enough to be where you are. And when you are, because we're worried about the future of the past or minds are all over the, just practice, slowing down. And, you know, there's a million YouTube videos about how to do this, or get my book meditation, the amazing journey within, but I don't care get something. And the part two was be still enough to notice what is there, because those subtle things feel different. And if you practice you'll know the difference and step three, and last one is just trust what comes to you is truth. And that means you're sometimes going to do obvious things. And sometimes you're going to do scary things. And so often, like I told you, before I have a two and a half hour morning ritual every day that I don't skip, I wouldn't skip it. And as soon as I run outside in minus 40 in the snow naked, I just don't because it prepares me to be who I am trust. What comes to you is truth. Most of the time the instruction is just do what's in front of you.
Speaker 3 00:20:51 It isn't some grand go do a new thing. It's do the thing that's in front of you create the next episode, make that video, make that phone call, talk to that person, you know, start again, forgive yourself, go easy and go a little, take 1% more responsibility. Okay. And once in a while, there's a dramatic shift, 3000 bucks a week to zero in a day. Okay. But that's a story that I tell over and over again, that was 12, 14 years ago. That those kinds of major things are rare. Almost always is just do what's in front of you. That feels right. That adds good to the world that honors your soul.
Speaker 2 00:21:44 It's almost so simple, but yet you can feel the resistance through the energetic, you know, telepathic ways of individuals, because it's almost like we're looking as, as humans for the next hard thing. Like if it's going to be a big change in my life, it's got to be hard. And I think some of the next steps are, but some of my most blessed moments have been in just the next easy thing that helps me to build confidence or trust in myself or whatever it is. But it didn't seem like the next right step because it almost was too simple.
Speaker 3 00:22:25 Okay, good. I won't do those easiest, obvious things. I'm going to just sit around and do nothing till I find something hard. And then when that comes, I don't have the courage, the background, the foundation, or the resilience to go do that hard thing. Ah, is this too hard? What's what else is there? Well, let's see if you'll do these easy ones that I give you and keep doing them. When the hard one comes, you'll be able to do that because you will have felt the success, the success cadence. I have devised a thing called that we lie to ourselves like breathing. Okay. We do. We commit to do this. We commit to do that. We commit to do this. We committed that we don't let me excuse ourselves out, uh, and say whatever we say. And we believe that as long as I keep my commitments to other people, I'm okay, that's backwards.
Speaker 3 00:23:11 It's wrong. And it will not build you or give you success. The most important thing to do is adopt this cadence. I said it, I did it. I said it, I did it. I said it. I did it. And if you have trouble with that, then shrink the damn goal. Get it small enough. So you can do. I said it, I did it. I said it. I did it because then you become a person who can trust yourself. And when you say a word, it comes to pass, then you will keep your word to everybody else. But start with smallest goal and get the cadence. I said it, I did it. I said it. I did it.
Speaker 2 00:23:51 Mm. Okay. You, you made mention of your morning routine. And I want to talk to you about that because the more conversations I have with leaders across the globe, the ones that have kind of figured it out, all different routines, but they all got one. So I w I'm interested to hear what's your routine like? Cause I think you said it's like two and a half hours long.
Speaker 3 00:24:14 Well, when I teach it, I start with 40 minutes and I teach it in 10, 10, 10, 10, 4, 10 minute pieces. I arbitrarily divided life into four parts and I use the acronym, spam, Spem spiritual, physical, emotional, mental. I start with spiritual because the essence of our being that energetic truth, call it whatever you want, the universe, spirit, blah, blah, blah. I'm going to call it spirit for simplicity. But the spirit in you came from somewhere. You know that, and it doesn't exist to exist when we die. We all know that intuitively we ignore it. We say whatever we say about it, but we know it. So pay attention to it, nurture it, love it. Take care of it. Pay it honor for 10 minutes in the morning. I don't care if that's a 10 minute meditation. I don't care if it's prayer. I don't care if it's reading some kind of sacred thing.
Speaker 3 00:25:01 That means something, uh, whatever it is, but give it some life, breathe into it. Okay. This part two is physical. I don't care if you're going to go work out later in the day, or if your job is physical, pay attention to your body, that container stretch, do something intentional. I'm a long-time practitioner of martial arts. I a hold a couple of second degree black belts and I've done some competitive martial arts stuff is one of the 27 million things I did to prove I was somebody. Um, but pay attention. So I do some stretching and some stuff, you know, I might jump on the Mike because my rituals now much longer. So it's longer. But even if it's 10 minutes stretch, and if somebody wants a 10 minute physical routine, that'll wake up your body and do some good for you. I can give you 20 of them.
Speaker 3 00:25:52 And even ones that work in hotels. And when you travel and all that nonsense about I can't this, that and the other it's nonsense. So give your body 10 minutes the east and I use it's emotional. But in that context is all your relationships. So spend a few minutes. We have the miracle of phones and messenger. Think of three people whose relationship you either want to acknowledge strengthen, repair, or began and send some texts, messages of kindness and love. I was just thinking of you, oh, you know, I, you told me this the other day, how's that going? Something to acknowledge and strengthen relationships that are important to you. 10 minutes M is mental. So then I have about 30 books sitting around me that I'm in the middle of, and I read a chapter or two or 10, and I've developed facility over time to read really, really fast.
Speaker 3 00:26:49 So I read a lot and that's another class that I teach because we can do that. We learn to read and mirror in first grade. And we've never upgraded that method about taking an information left to right top to bottom, to slow the optic nerve doesn't work like that. It's just how we trained it to start with. Anyway, that's another topic. So that's it spend spiritual, physical, emotional, mental, and do it every day. Switch it up. Read different books. Think of different relationships, have two or three physical routines, two or three different kinds of meditation, but don't skip it. Don't say, well, I don't have time today because what you'll discover is doing this. I said it, I did it. I said, I did. It will prepare you for being your best self that day. You will forget less stuff. You will be more on time and more prepared for stuff. It's not a surprise. You have awakened and paid attention to all parts of your body. And I might two and a half to three hours. It's just because I spend a lot longer at everything
Speaker 2 00:27:52 Beautiful. Like that's, it's, it's such a succinct way of looking at it. And you know, I always go back to the, you know, if you've been on a plane recently, folks, I know for a lot of us, it's been a little bit, but you know, when you're on there and the stewardess stewardess speaks to, you know, in case of an emergency, what do you do? You put the mask on yourself first, before you go and you save everybody else on the plane and it's become my core mantra. Are you putting the mask on yourself first? And what I noticed for most leaders, most entrepreneurs. Yeah. They come to me and they're like, I want to grow my business. And then we figure out the relationships are falling to shit and their health is deteriorating. And you know, they're on the verge of a burnout and it's like, you can't go fix your business.
Speaker 2 00:28:41 You got to fix, you know, the house is on fire. Go, go put the fire out first. And I love this cause it's such a succinct way of just saying like, there are parts of you that need to be, you know, fuel the vehicle, you know, feed the beast, give energy to the goddess, whatever you need to take care of those parts, because then it makes you, I think the two parts that I'm hearing from you is I said it, I did it. I said it, I did it. It's the trust. And that success, cadence that you're talking about. When I say I'll do something, I do it and believing I'll do it so that when the big things come, I've built up that resiliency to move through. But then I think the other side of it is, is there's more joy and happiness in your life when you take care of you and the relationships that matter so that you do have, you know, the spark, the, the, the un-fun your step to go and show up for your business.
Speaker 3 00:29:32 So you can't serve from an empty cup. I have a friend who's a powerful coach, makes a ton of money. He works in New York and big clients like Morgan Stanley and some other stuff. He talks about serving from the saucer. If you have an empty cup, you can't serve. So your cup has to be full and overflowing all the time. All the time. It's not selfish. It's not wrong. It is required. You think God runs around this tank empty, not so you have to serve from the saucer. So figure out when I help people do this, I help them figure out what works did that work? Did that make you feel good? Not why not? Is it a story or is it the activity itself until you find something that actually fuels you and then it doesn't become a thing. Oh, I have to make time for this stupid. It's the thing I want to do because when I'm done, I feel good. Imagine if your intuition was sharp, your decisions were right. The first time you knew what to do, you did it, right. It felt good. And you could lean into everything in flow. Like you've had days like that. What if they were all the time?
Speaker 3 00:30:40 Mine are. And I just told you how to do it.
Speaker 2 00:30:46 Super simple. All right. So let me ask you some lightning speed questions. What is your favorite book and why?
Speaker 3 00:30:53 Oh, good. Heavens. I have no idea. I've read so many books. I can't even know the scriptures. Any of them? All of them, the word, I don't know how God did it, but he put power in the words. Like some of them they're just words. But if you read them any in, you've opened your spirit and maybe that's because where our spirits came from and it's super out nutrient rich nourishment. I don't know, but there's power in those words, internalize. I don't care which scriptures you read, take them, understand them, consider yourself in them. And then if the scriptures don't get it for you, find someone that is telling you truth and lifts your spirit and makes you understand who you are. Those books.
Speaker 2 00:31:35 Oh boy, you got passion. What's your what? Nevermind. I'm not even asking this question. I already know the answer. It was your self care routine. Got it. Spam check it. All right. The one app that you can't live without in your business app software, something that you use in your business.
Speaker 3 00:31:53 Oh, uh, yeah, for communication. I like Facebook messenger cause it's fun and easy. And everybody's on Facebook for creating things. I use the Adobe suite in the studio. I own a recording studio and have for decades. I use Steinberg products for all the music creation that I do have a dozen albums as well. I've I was in a group that charted number one on billboard, three times in a choir. I have a dozen of my own albums. I did an album of music of 11 songs to tell the stories in this book. And then I wrote the sequel down from the gallows and did an album with this one. And the third volume of the trilogy will be out in January. And that is halfway done. Yes. When I say I that much that's that's Kellen.
Speaker 2 00:32:42 Ah, man, I like it. Okay. Best piece of advice that you've ever been given in life or in business.
Speaker 3 00:32:50 I don't know if I was given it or whatever, but the best truth is that you actually are the child of the divine God, whatever you choose to call it. And that's a true thing, whether you like it or not, whether you choose to live into it or not, whether you want to acknowledge it or not. So my best piece of advice is treat yourself that way, love and live into that truth.
Speaker 2 00:33:15 Final question. What does perspective shifting mean to you
Speaker 3 00:33:24 When I'm at the bottom of the mountain? It looks really high and really hard. And at the top, everything feels different, completely separate from the fact that you've climbed the mountain, your perspective, what you're able to understand is completely different. And that's the value of coaching. It's the value of meditation? It's the value of true introspection? It is. I have a funny example. I was walking a dog one morning and it was a hedge, uh, that was about chest high. So I could see over the hedge, but the dog couldn't, I could see around the corner and I could see another person walking, a dog coming toward the hitch. I knew like the sun shines in Phoenix and it was in that neighborhood. That's a house I had in Phoenix for a long time. I now live in Edmonton. Uh, and I was across the street walking and I could see over a hedge and I could see someone walking to the corner and I knew without any doubt in 15 seconds, um, the dogs were going to see each other.
Speaker 3 00:34:22 My dog was going to start yapping and pulling and trying to get to the other dog. I knew that I knew it because of my perspective, like knowing the future and my dog was blissfully unaware until the steps took place and the seconds went by and it was precisely as I predicted. And then that moment I had a meltdown revelation, understanding how it is possible for spirit, the divine, to understand things that are coming and in the future, without determining anything, without taking away our truth and agency, but could see. And so that example burned into my heart and soul. The truth of perspective.
Speaker 2 00:35:06 Brilliant. Where can people hang out with you?
Speaker 3 00:35:08 Well, if you spell my name right Kellen Flueckiger I can't hide. So if you Google me, there's thousands of hits for my executive career, but most of them are from my last 15 years. If you put me in an Amazon there's music there's books,
Speaker 2 00:35:23 Thank you so much for sharing your heart, your journey, your story, and just so much of your truth today. I know that there will be lots of individuals that are moved by it, and I wish you the best of success. My friend.
Speaker 3 00:35:36 Thank you. And I again want to thank you for the effort, love and, and joy that you do have a phrase and just add good to the world. And you've made a choice with your effort, your heart, your love, your time, your energy to add good to the world.
Speaker 1 00:35:50 Thank you so much for tuning in to the balanced perspective
Speaker 4 00:35:54 Podcast.
Speaker 5 00:35:55 Listen, if you liked what you heard, can you give me a review? Maybe even a five-star
Speaker 4 00:36:01 Alright. Have an awesome day.
